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to negotiate and create another fiscal cliff down the road. i hope we will not do that. i still think there is time before the end of the year to make that happen, but again, if it does not happen, unfortunately what that does is throw us into another debt ceiling situation, which is just not good for our country. we would be so much better off starting off on january 1 with this in the rearview mirror. our economy would take off and our country would be so much better off. >> chris, you understand the politics of the house from both sides. can john boehner cut a deal without eric cantor and paul ryan? >> i have a pretty good understanding of the house, but i always am a little afraid of wandering into house republican leadership politics. just to broaden the question a little bit -- i think the question is whether or not the speaker is going to be able to bring a good part of his caucus with him. that or require a united leadership team. >> i am talking short-term -- the next two or three weeks. >> i think that is going to be a requirement. i think one of the decisions the speaker wi
will hunker down, particularly are the whole fiscal cliff story hanging. even if it goes over, which i predict it will -- >> so do i. >> diana, what are you seeing? >> in the high ends where dolly works, of course it's going to have a big effect. let's keep this in perspective when we look at the housing recovery. homes price ed over $1 million were just 1.7% of sales in october. this is a minuscule amount when you look at the overall housing market and the recovery. that's why we're not seeing prices come down. also, remember the high end was hit the hardest in the housing crash. if you bought your home, your multimillion dollar home five, four, even three years aerks your price has probably come down so much that you're not really looking at any capital gains when you finally do sell this home. >> that's a really good point. it is a small portion of the overall real estate market. >> without a question. >> what are you expecting in terms of pricing? when will we see prices start coming down? >> well, we may see it come down in pockets. for example, the upper east side, there's a lot of devel
republicans are not going to have to vote for them to go up. we'll go off the fiscal cliff, down the fiscal slope. yes i think it will happen because it is the one way republicans can, without violating the pledge, and offending the grand inquisitor grover norquist, it's the one way they can let this happen. >> and, in fact, you know, what could happen, you can imagine a scenario where you go off the cliff on taxes, rates go up for everybody, you then vote to restore the rates for the vast majority of taxpayers, 98%, and further it is even conceivable you negotiate down the top rates in the level under bill clinton a little bit by putting in the pot offsetting deductions for credits which would allow republicans to claim some sort of victory as well. that could be a scenario where you have a consensus on the tax run. >> let's run all of this by representative xavier becerra of california. he's joining us now. nice to see you, sir 367 appreciate your time. what is really the white house dismiss kind of out of hand i mean i don't have the exact number of minutes that they had this republican
, go down the fiscal cliff for tax rates, and adjust the taxes for the 98% through the rebate process. and this could be available for anyone, any president. let the bush tax rates apply as a ceiling, and then apply the rebate process to control the 98%. host: why do you propose that? what is the advantage in your view? caller: because the executive branch, the president, whoever it is, would have the ability to adjust the tax effectively for anyone who falls below the clintons' ceiling, and they could do this anytime. there would not have to go back to congress. -- they would not have to go back to congress. guest: it is true that technically the administration can do some things without even the congress's approval, but it would not be a lasting solution. let's say you could freeze the amount of withholding that you pay three paycheck at the level it was this year, for the 98%, and increase withholdings for everyone else as the law would dictate if you read over the cliff. -- went over the cliff. but the 98%, if they did not actually pass a law to extend the tax cuts for that portio
the fiscal cliff is serious business. i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> house democratic leader nancy pelosi quickly dismissed boehner's remarks as a negotiating maneuver. >> i think they'll come around. it's a tactic. it's a tactic. >> reporter: you hear a strikingly similar message from other top democratic leaders saying the ball is in the republican's court. >> we are waiting for some specifics somewhere from our republican colleagues to show that they're serious on negotiations. >> reporter: as the country fast approaches the fiscal cliff, the two sides are talking past each other. democrats say they've laid down their marker, hiking tax rates on wealthier americans. and it's up to republicans to propose specific spending cuts they want to entitlement programs. however, republicans say they've offered a concession, putting revenue on the table. and they say it's now up to the president and his fellow democrats to feel some pain and proposed cuts in medicare and medicaid. confusing? we asked harry reid. >> where is
and what we need down the line. man this is tough. >> it is. please don't make me say "fiscal cliff" again. the two words. all i talk about. >> eric: we had predictions that they will come to a deal. it's political jockeying now. >> that is what we are hoping for. >> eric: that is what all americans want. >> jamie: three words. fasten your seat belt. new report that the aging infrastructure may have played a role in freight train derailment in new jersey. truly tragic. seven cars jumping the tracks while the train was crossing a bridge. the problem is it was carrying hazardous chemicals in the air. live in the new york news room. i know there were evacuations. did the folks get go back home? >> the national transportation safety board saying the conductor with con-raid since 2008. worked the accident route previously but this was his first week back on it. the ntsb pointed to a faulty traffic signal for causing friday bridge collapse. train derailment and the toxic chemical release that caused the health problem for residents in pollsborough, new jersey. >> they are going to work the point
winding down? first, though, the fiscal cliff looms ever nearer, the house speaker, among many others, sounding very pessimistic today. are we headed over the edge? and after the election in a bruising defeat, what's next for the republican party? we'll talk to one top outgoing gop senator. good sunday afternoon to you, you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. there are no signs right now of a break in the deadlocked talks to avert the so-called fiscal cliff, the devastating combinations of tax increase and spending cuts that kick in january 1st. both sides seem to dig in this morning on the sunday talk shows. >> the only thing standing in the way of that would be a refusal by republicans that the rates would have to go up on the wealthiest americans, and i don't really see them doing it. >> right now, i would say we're nowhere, period, we're nowhere. >> that somber assessment today from house speaker john boehner, as geithner, the point man, went on all five sunday talk shows, cnbc, washington correspondent aman javers joining me live now. did geithner offer anything new today
the so-called fiscal cliff. >> you have to nail this down. uncertainty is killing us. >> reporter: top economists talked about the impact of tax increases and government spending cuts on the middle class. >> a couple thousand dollars, means a couple months rent for this family. >> reporter: the white house has made clear the country could go over the cliff, if republicans refused to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> for them to be burdened, unnecessarily, because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem, gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: republican leaders say they will close loopholes loopholes and eliminate tax breaks to raise money. but insist that bush-era tax cuts must be extended for all americans. >> reporter: the standoff and the country's skyrocketing debt, concerns ryan shenecki. so much so that he's the guy in the suit, dancing gangnam style with former senator allen simpson. >> i'm keeping up on this baby. >> reporter: his group, the cankicksba
for a deal on the fiscal cliff. low volume as well today. the dow closed down yesterday at 12,966. but can it gets over that 13,000 mark for the new year? pill * police say she is running out of time. an 11-year-old girl taken from the cancer ward by her mother as seen on this surveillance camera. police say if she is not found soon she could die. now a new clue was just uncovered by police, and that's next. martha: president obama may be turn together fashion world for this next ambassador to france. he may be considering anna wintour. she was a top fundraiser who helps organize a dinner. it brought in $8.2 million. we have fundraisers take on those posts. she has denied she wants it so far. we'll see. bill: 6-hour plane flight. there are new developments on the search for a u.s. girl wanted. her father was stopped at the border by police. her mother removed her mother's i.v. and walked her out of the hospital without notifying doctors. the child has a catheter in her heart. if it's not removed. there is a possibility an infection could kill her. i want to start with the father crossing i
kicking exercise down the road would be better than the fiscal cliff? >> that's a tough one. the toothless can kicking exercise is hard. you've all helped make this a significantly watched issue. >> you want a pen? >> i'm happy to have a pen. >> you don't have yours on. >> i forgot. >> i've got mine prominently displayed. >> you forgot a couple days last week. >> we'll get you one. did we finally send them out? >> i saw some people got them. >>> when we come back, we'll have much more from our guest host today, greg fleming. but first, a new frontier of luxury. [ penélope ] i found the best cafe in the world. nespresso. where i never have to compromise on anything. ♪ where just one touch creates the perfect coffee. where every cappuccino and latte is only made with fresh milk. and where the staff is exceptionally friendly. ♪ nespresso. what else? >>> welcome back. everybody. the dow futures are up about 40 points this morning. s&p 500 are up by more than four and a half points. boeing says that u.s. regulators have ordered the entire fleet of 787 jets to be inspected for a possible fu
're not down to the heart of it yet. >> what about those people who say let the fiscal cliff happen? go over the cliff and see what happens and what political advantage we can gain from that? >> i can't imagine -- i can't imagine when it finally gets down to it that rational people would let that happen. i mean, to throw the country into a recession, which you almost would certainly have. to have these draco nian cuts. you would have cuts in the defense department, charlie, for example. they can't cut programs so they have to cut maintenance. they have to cut -- you know, you can't buy gas for the airplanes. that sort of thing. surely, surely we have not sent people to washington who would be willing to let that sort of thing happen. i can't imagine that it will happen in the end. >> bob schieffer, thank you very much. >>> as we mentioned, bob will interview treasury secretary geithner, congressman mike rogers and dianne feinstein sund sunday. >>> to identify one of the winners who will split a record $588 million jackpot. the other winning ticket sold in arizona might be in the hands of a m
're learning more about the white house plan to deal with the fiscal cliff. break it down for us. >> reporter: right. this is the plan that secretary -- treasury secretary timothy geithner took up to capitol hill yesterday. it calls for $1.6 trillion in tax increases over a ten-year period more than republicans had anticipated. in addition to that, $400 billion in spending cuts that will come later. much of that not really specified. we're looking at entitlements such as medicare. and then the plan also includes $50 billion in stimulus spending. democrats see this really as sort of the opening salvo in these negotiations. early on in this process, both sides appear to show some level of optimism that this would get done. in the last few days and certainly yesterday it just seems like both sides are so far apart, it's not unusual for us to see this kind of posturing and other negotiations, tough negotiations over the last four years or so. you'll see things build up whether it appears that it's going to get done. then they fall apart. in the end it does happen. the hope is that that would happ
and your meeting and really zero in on the fiscal cliff. before we do that, i want to get to the situation around hewlett-packard and autonomy. of course, hp taking a massive write down on the acquisition of autonomy. ceo meg whitman throwing deloitte under the bus in some sense because the firm was among those charged with examining the books before the deal. what can you tell us about what you did in terms of overseeing the books at autonomy and what do you say now that she's charging this fraud? >> sure, maria. unfortunately for us, that matter has been turn the over to investigation and the authorities. believe it or not, that's one of the things i'm not on the hot seat about. that's part of the u.k. member firm. >> of course, this is an issue at the form. it's a big deal. >> it's important to us. unfortunately, we can't comment on that. our member firm has put out a statement. we believe we held up to professional standards. >> during that time, there was no questioning on the part of hewlett-packard in terms of saying, hey, did you find anything? it just seems like it came up from no
much. >>> fiscal cliff negotiations spinning the markets up and down like a yo-yo. i'll get reaction next from real estate guru barry sternlicht. also, we'll discuss how he's putting his investment firm to work. wait until you hear what he has his sights set on. >>> and stick around for my exclusive interview with the chevron ceo. we'll talk about whether dividends are in the pipeline or a big acquisition on the horizon. >>> and is it time to kill the $1 billion? the case is being made today on why $1 coins make more sense. do they really? stick around for that heated debate comes up. you're watching "closing bell" on cnbc. we're back in a minute. at u.s. trust, our expertise extends well beyond investment advice and research analysis. it includes proprietary offerings like our eldercare program, which helps provide for those who came before you. and our financial empowerment program, which helps prepare those who come next. resources like these have made us the number-one trust company. that's why generations of families have come to us to help build their own legacies. [ male annou
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down the days to christmas. mom and dad, to count down the days until the fiscal cliff until we fall off of it in 30-days. in legislative language they have two weeks to carve out a deal. republicans or democrats miles apart. >> two weeks because they take christmas off. congress does. >> starting the 149. -- 14th. >> they got canceled. >> congress never really shied away from vacation time. they get on planes and get out there. president obama is blaming the republicans for this stalled proposal right now. listen to the president. >> if congress does nothing eerie familiar -- every family will see income taxes go up at the beginning of next year. a typical middle class family of four will see income taxes rise by $2,200. it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts in hostage because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> congressman ted o says he finds the president's suggestion to congress basically laughable, because the president, you will remember during the campaign the 800 billion number was thrown around for new
the fiscal cliff with democrats and the president, he is cracking down now on some house conservatives that he thinks are a bit too free spirited. john boehner kicked two republicans off the house budget committee. he got rid of another two on the financial services committee. all four voted against the 2011 debt ceiling deal. the two on the budget committee voted against paul ryan's budget. the chairman of the budget committee. speaker boehner issued these punishments with the full support of the republican leadership including the majority leader eric cantor and majority whip kevin mccarthy. jonathan capehart, this is fascinating. i am interpreting this as a positive thing for president obama and the democrats in an attempt to at some point either before or after going off the cliff, reaching some kind of deal with boehner. what boehner's message seems to be to these conservatives willing to vote for something because it is not conservative enough. i need better team players if i'm going to walk back from the white house with a deal. i need your vote on it. >> right. by removing the
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these issues, if they don't scale back the cliff and raise the debt ceiling and address long-term fiscal issues we have a huge problem on ourselves hands. i think the political star are aligned. the president has his legacy. he's a second-term president and i think he really wants to address this and i think the republicans want to address it as well. so i think we'll get it together. >> schieffer: underline for me again, what happens if they don't get a deal? number one, taxes go up for everybody. >> yeah. so the first thing that happens on january 1, everybody's tax rate-- everybody, everybody in this room, across america-- tax rates will go up >> because the bush tax cuts expire. >> because the bush-era tax cuts expire and everybody's tax rates go up. and then we have a boat load of spending cuts. as part of various deals we have a big cut to defense budget, nondefense. add up it it's 4.5% of the nation's g.d.p. that jus evaporates. >> schieffer: what do you, will happen? >> i didn't believe we would get as close to the wire. i sit in exphurk and look from the mark's perspective. i think the
not be sitting around twiddling our thumbs. the clock is running. we face a fiscal cliff. there are some in this chamber who have said, oh, we need to go off of it. we'll go off of it. we'll pay the price and then we'll finally sit down and do what's right. i would, with all due respect, say that's pretty stupid. >> that was some blunt talk from my next guest, republican senator from georgia, johnny isaacson. that was two and a half weeks ago. the more things change, the more they stay the same. both the president and house republicans have offered their own solutions to the fiscal cliff. but we're no closer to a deal. joining me now is senator isa isaacson. good morning, senator isaacson. i assume you stand by what you said just two weeks ago. so let me ask you this. the initial offer by speaker boehner, is it fair to say -- is it fair that the white house is calling it an unserious offer since it doesn't do anything on tax rates? >> no, i dent think so at all. i think it's more reflective of a simpson-bowles. it's a first step. i made a living selling houses for 33 years. i don't get p
was one of those days, show a lot of americans don't even know about the fiscal cliff. paychecks are going to go down, a million layoffs in the defense industry. no one seems to care right now. it's bad. >> you know what we have going for us? the grid, december 17 announced -- on a seasonal basis, they have reiterated once again that it doesn't have the demand to be sold year round, but starting a week from monday. >> i don't buy that. i think they do it because whenever they have mcrib, they're just fighting traffic for mcrib. there are places in the world where the mcrib is on the menu all the time. in case you're there on your vacation. >> i'm learning here all the time. i'm always learning. >> switch from the bacon cheese-inator. [ bell rings ] . >> celebrating the ground breaking of hotels in new york. we'll be speaking to the ceo in this hour. >> whitehorse is an interesting story. >> white house, delayed over at the nasdaq, the new york stock exchange puts out a release reiterating 16 companies have announced or moved to the big board so for this year. you're starting to wonder who
of the euro. other people feel that everything goes down in a fiscal cliff situation. i mean, commodities are saying we're going to go over the cliff. that's what i think. >> it's interesting. there are these recent reports tallying how many american eagle gold coins americans are buying. is that the ultimate safe haven trade. if americans are buying gold coins in record numbers, the strongest sales since 1998, and it's not just seasonality here. it's interesting. >> i own some. i own silver. >> silver and gold. >> you can buy silver and gold. you can actually -- there's a big markup in coins. the government doesn't help. you can own pieces of silver and pieces of gold. >> do you have some on you right now? >> no, i don't. i have it buried in the backyard. i have it in a vault. never bury your gold in the backyard. >> i'll remember that. thank you for that advice. >> first we have to get backyard. >> el paso electric company celebrating tenth anniversary. yit celebrating its 100th anniversary. want to go straight to mary thompson with breaking news out of fdic. >> this is the fdic's third
point. >> companies are getting more concerned about the fiscal cliff. in fact, you won't believe how many are mentioning in their s.e.c. filings. >>> will the housing comeback fall off the cliff if we don't get our fiscal house in order by the end of the year? the ceo of prudential joins us later. when we got married. i had three kids. and she became the full time mother of three. it was soccer, and ballet, and cheerleading, and baseball. those years were crazy. so, as we go into this next phase, you know, a big part of it for us is that there isn't anything on the schedule. >>> how important is the fiscal cliff to the companies in your portfolio? apparently the answer is very. the blog footnoted counted 279 mentions of the fiscal cliff in s.e.c. filings for the month of november. that compares to 120 mentions of the fiscal cliff in october. there were none last year at this time, by the way. the first time i ever heard the fiscal cliff, first person i heard mention it, you, back in february. i'm wondering, what the heck is she talking about? >> it was in my bedtime reading. obviousl
-888-xarelto or visit goxarelto.com. >>> let me finish tonight with this. this fiscal cliff we talk about, i'm afraid is no bungee jump. what goes down doesn't by necessity come back up. this is why i've warned to know the president is working here for an early deal, one before christmas. this country needs to get back on its feet economically. we went through financial chaos under w. president obama came in to right things. he's been doing it, gradually getting us to forget how bad things were. fortunately for him the voters remember how bad they were. that's one reason they don't blame obama for the weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. it's about being smart and not putting the country a
. >> pretty definite. all right, ron. >> thank you, ron. >>> we'll turn now to if fiscal cliff, 30 days from an economy-crippling deadline. yet talks seem to be going nowhere. treasury secretary timothy geithner will be the guest on "this week" with george stephanopoulos. >> last weekend, you sat right here and you said you were reasonably optimistic that a deal could be afoot. in the intervening week, lot of trash-talking from both sides, can we still be somewhat hopeful? >> this week was a rough week in these negotiations. treasury secretary geithner when he went up to capitol hill, mitch mcconnell laughed when they got the offer from geithner. house speaker boehner said that the talks are at a stalemate. democrats said they're not going to make another move until republicans say they're going to go for an increase in tax rates. so, this is stalemate right now. now, these things always look horrible when they come together. more and more voices say, this is going to go over the fiscal cliff at least for a few days in january. >> if we go over the fiscal cliff, voters will likely blame the
increase is, whatever it is. they also know what a fiscal cliff is. they disagree with that. they do worry. if everybody is watching us in the world -- we disagree on this. if the country goes o down and the rich are blamed for it, i think that's why a lot of rich people on wall street are saying to boehner, stop already. we're loaded up here. move on and don't screw up the economy because we're going to lose a lot more money if this market crashes to a second great recession. >> chris, i think the market has priced it in. >> no, you're right. >> i think they have. for a little while. not six months. >> who are you talking to? i keep talking to -- who are you talking to -- >> i spoke with a source the other day in washington, a lawyer. >> a lawyer? >> la lawyer. but he spikes to a lot of people that are wall street types. he says the market could take it. >> the cake is baked and they think the politicians up to the challenge. >> wall street doesn't have a lot of faith in this process to be able to get done so they've priced in a little bit that this could happen for a while. you wouldn't
-tablet free trial. >>> let me finish tonight with this. this fiscal cliff we talk about, i'm afraid, is no bungy jump. what doesn't go down doesn't by necessity go back up. this is why i'm warmed that the president is working here for an early deal, one before christmas. this country needs to get back on its feet economically. we went under financial chaos under work. president obama came in to right things. he's been doing it, gradually getting us to forget how bad things were. they don't blame
the fiscal cliff. take $1.2 trillion out of spending and tax hikes, stops the spending. mandatory spending cuts across the board. you know what? the only way to do it. only way to do it. everything else is chump change. >> dana: how do you deal with deficit reduction if you raise the taxes on a portion of the country that will pay for the government for 8.5 days? >> bob: you couple that with the social security adjustments and medicare. 'canes that is not what geithner put on the table. >> dana: that is going to be on -- >> bob: that is what is going to be on the table. >> dana: republicans held their feet on the fire. >> bob: whatever it took. >> greg: i used to think howard dean was a proctologist because he had his head up his butt but he pulled the curtain back. it's never about raising taxes on the rich because you run out of rich. >> andrea: right. >> greg: that is the point. >> eric: raise tax on everyone who pays taxes or everyone? everyone means the poor and 47% will start paying. >> greg: if you raise taxes up 2%, eight days of government? >> andrea: the dirty little secret -- >>
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to say, let's do this and deal with other issues down the line. people are talking about the fiscal cliff on january 1. let's give businesses the service. their employees can pass the middle income tax cut now. >> i would like to add that basarah were sar participants in the discussion. when they went to the table as representatives of the house democrats, the next -- no instructions except to reach an agreement. the overriding value was to get the jobs done for the american people. the only thing i said i wanted to say was jobs and economic growth would be the centerpiece of the discussion. whatever decisions we would unmake as far as cuts and revenue or raising them with center around how we create jobs. that is how we will reduce the deficit by creating jobs. every time we came to the idea of bold balance, the rivet a question was the hurdle and it is still does. we cannot get there from here in terms of deficit reduction. you can grow your way he to there, but you have to have the revenue as a confidence-building that we are responsible. we will get the job done. he had ended their me
" starts right now. >>> the world is finally paying attention to the fiscal cliff, but you've known about the economic storm of our own making for months now. i i'maly velshi. this is "your money." i wasn't waiting to focus on this major threat to the economy. i wish others had. it would have given us more time to fix this major problem. at least now there's a focus on one thing and one dangerous man. a man who is not elected. who has never run pour office and is standing in the way after potential economic disaster. he's the ideological godfather of the tea party. grover norquist has been the driving force behind the anti-tax movement. his goal, to take big government and, in his words, drown it in the bathtub. norquist's weapon is the taxpayer protection pledge, which was at one point signed by 95% of gop members of congress. >> can you raise your hand if you feel so strongly about not raising taxes? >> on the campaign trail this year, only one republican presidential candidate, jon huntsman, dared to cross him. norquist has clout. he's called the most powerful unelected man in america
, with only four weeks to go before we reach that fiscal cliff, republicans offer a proposal for a new deal. it had few specifics. the white house rejected it. tracie potts joins us from washington with the details. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. with a white house proposal and republican proposal on the table, you'd think we would have somewhere to begin negotiations. the white house says what republicans have offered isn't even a start. six governors, democrats, and republicans weigh in on the fiscal cliff today. what will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2 trillion. but no tax hikes for the wealthy. >> that's just not going to happen. >> reporter: the pentagon could take the biggest hit from president obama told defense experts monday, don't worry. >> even as we make
'll turn now to the fiscal cliff, 30 days from an economy-crippling deadline. where everyone's taxes go up and massive spending cuts kick in. yet, talks seem to be going nowhere. treasury secretary timothy geithner will be the guest on "this week" with george stephanopoulos. george is with us now. good morning, george. >> last weekend, you sat right here and you said that you were reasonably optimistic that a deal could be afoot. in the intervening week, we have seen a lot of trash-talking from both sides, can we still be somewhat hopeful? >> this week was a rough week in these negotiations. treasury secretary geithner when he went up to capitol hill, on thursday, the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell laughed when he got the offer from tim geithner. they think it's an offer that doesn't show any rules towards compromise. house speaker john boehner said that the talks are at a stalemate. there seems to be a huge divide. democrats said they're not going to make another move until republicans clearly say they're going to go for an increase in tax rates. republicans aren't prepared to m
employed -- >> eric: you agree to get something done so we don't go off the fiscal cliff and sequestration to get kick in? genuine in negotiating and get a deal. >> andrea: we can do what we like. the catch phrase. kick the can down the road. coming up, trillion-dollar ticking time bomb in addition to one we're talking about that could undermine the american economy. what is it? don't tell you. we'll tell you -- don't move. we'll tell you. that is next on "the five." ♪ ♪ or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use. it's the ultimate combination of speed, small size, and low-cost printing. >> eric: future of america. watch. >> who is your favorite founding father? >> abraham lincoln. >> he's not a founding father. first president. >> i want to get this down on a tape recorder because nobody will believe me. >> george washington. >> what is a founding father? >> hi. i'm earth. have we met
and no fiscal cliff fights are going to stop him from a shopping blitz at washington's new costco super store. the veep came looking for pies and left with a television, books, fire logs, and a huge smile trailed by a horde of surprised shoppers. >> just walking through this store. get some guidance. >> you know, i have a feeling that the president may have missed his usual lunch partner at the midday meal today. joining us from washington is msnbc own historian the great chris matthews, the host of "hardball" and the author of quk jack kent, elusive hero," available now. highways t that's the advertising over. we learned the menu including white turkey chili and no humble pie after all. >> no dessert at all. i wondered about that double helping of poultry. what a strange meal. the turkey and then the chicken part. it's a strange meal. must have been dietary rules. i don't think that's a natural decision by the chef. strange meal. >> how do you think the meeting went though in truth? >> i think it's been screwed up because mr. romney, the governor, gave a wonderful concession speech, he came
there to think congress will be able to come to some sort of resolution. congress designed the fiscal cliff. i think probably senator thune from south dakota is making the most sense last night saying maybe we should kick the can down the road for six months instead of trying to rush it i'm not a fan of kicking the can down the road, that's what congress does. in this case, you have everyone scrambling, trying to examine the ramifications of the election. you have new people coming in. some of the people voting were thrown out of congress. why not wait until the 1st of the year. >> kicking the can, you look at markets today. you have global markets up. stock futures are up. the stock market was up yesterday because this whole idea of optimism from john boehner and the president that this could get done by the end of the year is something the world wants to see. you look at our polling. our polling shows, and the most recent poll from abc news/"washington post," 60% of people support raising tacks on incomes over $250,000 per year. isn't the argument of kicking the can down the road losing some
parts of the proposals to avert that fiscal cliff will really have. tonight we tackle the much-discussed concept of increasing tax rates for the top 2%. chief business correspondent ali velshi joins me now. help us cut through the spin. the partisans all have a different take on this. if you raise taxes on the top 2%, what's the impact? what does it look like and how much of an impact would it have on the deficit? >> well, let's look at it in two ways. one is income tax, right? right now, the highest earners, those households that earn more than a quarter million dollars a year, pay a higher tax rate on the marginal amount, the amount above the $250,000 a year. so we're talking about taking that rate from 36% to 39.6% if we even go there. that hasn't even been negotiated yet but that's 3.6% on every dollar you earn above $250,000. there are not a lot of studies that suggest that that would have catastrophic effects on the economy. the other area that democrats want to raise taxes are on investment income, things like capital gains, dividend income. now, those will jump signific
. >> reporter: stocks rallied as corporate news overshadowed concerns about the fiscal cliff. citigroup plans to cut 11,000 jobs as the bank's new ceo looks to save money. the cuts amount to about 4% of siti's -- sity's -- citi's work group. and it includes closing some branches. u.s. companies added fewer workers in november. bartly because super storm sandy shut down many businesses. including factories and retailers. they will get a better picture of the job market friday. shares of apple fell as much as 4% after a research firm raised its outlook of sales for tablet computers, pointing to strong demand from ipad rivals, from amazon, google and samsung. >>> and nokia's stock rallied,a -- after they launched a new version of the smart phone for the chinese market. >>> and another starbucks may be opening near you. the world's biggest coffee chain plans to add 150 stores over the u.s. over the next five years bringing the total number of starbucks to 20,000 by 2014. that's your money watch. for more, head to cbsmoneywatch.com. in new york, i'm alex
, but washington, you have real work to do. a looming fiscal cliff and what are we hearing? as republican senator jeff sessions says -- >> a lot of flimflam. >> flimflam. we told you last night that treasure secretary tim geithner hopscotched his way down pennsylvania avenue to bring the president's proposal from the white house to capitol hill and instead of offering compromise, he leapt to the extreme. in case you forgot, here's what his plan does. his plan taxes $1.6 trillion of taxes. higher tax rates on people, families making more than $250,000 as well as closing loopholes, limiting deductions, raising the estate tax rate and increasing the taxes on capital gains and dividends. and the plan spends nearly $200 billion. another stimulus package of 50 billion. an extension of unemployment insurance benefits estimated around $30 billion and an extension of the payroll tax cut estimated at about $114 billion. but the geithner plan didn't cut spending. in return for all of that, the president offered $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlement programs. today john boehner basically sai
today, the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't agree to raising taxes on the rich. all this week we've been focusing on what it is about this congress and this administration that makes it seem like compromise is a dirty word. certainly the extremes in the party seem to view it that way. we've been talking with past congressional leaders who have sat down at the negotiating table, facing sharp differences with the other political party in the past and still managing to come out with a deal. today i spoke a short while ago with trent lott, author of "herding cats: a life in politics." >> senator lott, you and senator mitchell wrote op-eds. you said one solution is to hold congress at hearings, marking up legislation. most americans would agree with that but be surprised to hear, i mean, that's their job. i think most of us, you know, would assume, isn't that their job description? >> well, they've slowly slipped away. for several years now. they don't do appropriations bills before the end of the fiscal year, not even before the end of t
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